Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 13:35:13 EST Subject: Heat/AC/Fresh Air Flap >>Can anyone out there tell me how the "freah air flap" on my '83 UrQ is supposed to work? The thing is very solidly shut; it resists even "firm" pressure applied by hand to open it, so something is actively holding it shut (as opposed to whatever pulls it open being merely disconnected).<< Where is it and I can go look at mine. - Dave Lawson dlawson@ball.com Pulling that flimsy plastic guard back reveals a big mutha vacuum servo connected to the fresh air flap. Breaking the vacuum circuit (!whoosh!) causes the servo to "relax" and the air flap opens, so in fact the servo seems to "work" just fine (amazing how strong a bit of vacuum can be!), as does the flap. The vacuum line of course disappears through the firewall (actually, I guess this is past the "firewall", yet before the dash/windshield -- I wonder if this would qualify as a "plenum" ??). From the inside, I can see a vacuum line that runs along the lower right (passenger) side of the heater/duct unit (with AC coils to the right and drip tray to the right), but can't see where it terminates. The other end of this vacuum line disappears upwards into the nether regions of the dash above the WFT (Whole F*****g Thing), and is -- I suspect -- the side that connects to the fresh air servo flap, although whether directly or through another dozen joins/relays/thingamabobs is impossible to discern. The frigging Bentley manual is typically useless. It acknowledges that AC does exist, and dedicates pages to different compressors, but nowhere does it actually describe the control "circuit" (mechanical/elec/vacuum), other than to say how to adjust the cables. There is a small "thingie" mounted on the upper left rear of the control assembly (three-levers for footwell air, windshield air, and AC/off/Heat) with two wires and what looks like a thermostat connection that runs off to the AC coil assembly). Anyone know what the devil this thing is? the Bently manual doesn't even show an ink stain where this thing is, so I am kinda mystified. Maybe the AC/Clutch thermostat/switch? (This is not to be confused with the "AC microswitch" mounted on the lower left side of the control assembly.) If your talking about the fresh air inlet valve under the thin plastic cover at the base of the windscreen..... normally it's open to let fresh air into the interior, it closes when the A/C is on to prevent humid outside are from getting inside. Working from memory here, I think it's vacuum controlled by a electrically operated valve mounted on the ducting there under the hood. Might be the same as the 4000/4000 Quattros? -glen So "normal" operation is open for heat and closed for AC? I wonder if the AC will work with it open (I *know* that heat works with it closed). I am beginning to suspect the easy solution will be to install my own "outboard" electric vacuum valve (which is actually kinda neat 'cuz then I can tell it to do what *I* want it to do, not what some damn furriner thinks is teutonically correct...[note to the humor-impaired: I am being semi-sar- castic/humorous here, no need to flame me for daring to question the competence of the World's Most Perfectly Engineered Car and/or the World's Most Perfectly Engineered Car's Engineers]). I am also thinking of adding a switch parallel to the "A/C Microswitch" to allow me to run the AC when on the heat setting -- which all (that I have seen) Japanese cars provide. This allows defogging/dehumidfying on those cold dank days (or when your heater sucks in great gobs of light airy snow flakes and dumps the melted remains on your windshield...). Anyone done this before? Pros/Cons/etc? -RDH